| Observing Location | North-South Lake, Catskill State Park, Haines Falls, New York, NY
Lat.: 40° 11’ 44.7"
Long.: -74° 2’ 29"
Alt.: 624m |
| Observational Period | 1930-0140 EDT 0300-0600 EDT |
| Atmospheric Conditions |
| Cloud Cover | Clear |
| Temperature | 52° dropping to 39° |
| Wind | |
| Humidity | High |
| Barometric Pressure | 30.25" Hg Rising |
| Feels Like | Very Cool |
| The nearest location that has historical weather data is Poughkeepsie, NY which is on the Hudson river and likely to have moister air and possible warmer temperatures than we had up at the lake.
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| Transparency | Excellent |
| Seeing | II |
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| Instruments | Naked-eye – Charlie
Teleport 10" Donsonisn reflector – Peter
- 2" Pentax 40mm, 70° FoV, 31.8x
- 2" TeleVue Nagler 17mm, 82° FoV, 74.7x
- 1.25" TeleVue Nagler 13mm, 82° FoV, 97.7x
- 1.25" TeleVue Plossl 7mm, 82° FoV, 181.4x
- Peter
Maksutov GoTo scopes – Tom, Rich & __
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| Observing Party | Charlie Ridgway
Peter Tagatac
Tom Haberly
Rich Rosenberg
__ (AAA member)
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It was supposed to e a very clear night with no moon and AAA had scheduled a dark sky observing event at North-South Lake which Peter wanted to attend and was recruiting people to go up there with him. Since I wanted to observe and am optically challenged at the moment I opted to tag along.
Peter had packed is Coulter CT-100 so that I could do some independent observing but didn’t realize that the mounting shoe for the tripod geared head wasn’t attached to the scope rail (Were the screws to hole the coffee cans there? I don’t remember them but didn’t check the scope itself.) I observed a bit with his binoculars and through the other scopes but most of the time just looked up at all the stars.
I started out making notes about the noctilucent cloud experiment but Peter got ahead of me on observing and I gave up on the note taking. This record is reconstructed from Peters Planetarium Log of the object seen and is incomplete as sometimes he wrote in his book and other common items and items observed in other scopes were not recorded.
It is a long way up to the park but it is a lot darker than TotL and, like Custer Institute at Southhold, is worth doing once or twice a year to get under a dark sky. The sky was not totally black but I was seeing stars down to Mag. 5 and peter was probably going a bit deeper. The Milky Way was visible all night although most of the time not horizon to horizon. Observing is done from a parking lot on the edge of the lake where there are no lights visible other than the very occasional vehicle or lights used by other observers. The local horizon is ~10° due to trees on all sides.
| Target | CARE Noctilucent Cloud Experiment |
| Constellation | Sgr |
| Category | |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.1952 EDT |
| Comments | While looking into Sgr I saw a flare that was nothing like I have ever seen before. It was very bright and beneath it there seemed to be an illuminated area of cloud or nebulosity that fanned out all the way down to the top of the handle of the Teapot and at one point became bifurcated by a dark lane extending downward. Peter speculated that it was a government experiment that Joe Rao had blogged about at ANMH. On the way home we read the blog on his iPhone and everything down to the last paragraph where it talks about seeing a sinuous vapor trail sounds right.
Joe Rao blog announcing the event
another blog with pictures of exactly what we saw minus the bright light from the rocket engines above the cloud
log with time the event actually occurred
Launch on YouTube
Cartes du Ciel graphic
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| Target | Jupiter |
| Constellation | Cap |
| Category | Planet |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.2013 EDT |
| Comments |
At the time of our observation Io was just starting to separate from the limb of the planet. Io’s shadow was visible in the Equatorial Zone. There was a light spot in the South Equatorial Band where the Great Red Spot was. I also observed the planet in one of the GoTo scopes under high power with a blue filter and was unable to see either the moon’s shadow or the Great Red Spot. I was able to see moons on both sides of the planet in the hand held binocular but could not hold it steady enough to tell how many moons I was seeing and didn’t count them when I was at the telescopes. I was able to see ι Cap (Mag. 4.28) ata distance of 20’ away just below and to the right of Jupiter naked-eye.
Cartes du Ciel graphic
Object Class | Classical Planet |
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| Elongation | ° |
Distance Light Time (from Earth) | 4.2116 AU m s |
Distance (from Sun) | 5.0301 AU |
| Angular Size | 46.8" |
| Magnitude | -2.8 |
Central Meridian I/II/III | 257.74 °/150.75°/256.44° |
| Altitude | 30° 40’ |
| Moons | Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Target | Iridium 77 Flare |
| Constellation | Aqr |
| Category | Satellite |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.2032 EDT |
| Comments |
| Alt. | 32.6° |
| Az. | 134.6° SE |
| Mag. | -3.3 |
This flare did not appear to be as bright as the advertised Mag -3.3.
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| Target | M30, NGC 7099 |
| Constellation | Cap |
| Category | GCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.2242 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 7.50
Surface Brightness: 11.00
Angular Size: 8.9’ x 8.9’
Description: !,B,L,lE,gpmbM,st 12...16
Wm. Herschel saw very elliptical shape
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| Target | M55, NGC 6809 |
| Constellation | Sgr |
| Category | GCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.2247 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 7.00
Surface Brightness: 13.00
Dimensions: 19.0’ x 19.0’
Description: pB, Lm R, vRi, vgbM |
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| Target | NGC 7009, Saturn Nebula |
| Constellation | Aqr |
| Category | PlNeb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.2322 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 8.30
Surface Brightness: 6.20
Dimensions: 0.5’ x 0.4’
Description: ! ! ! vB, S, elliptical
Saturn Nebula; H IV l; bright blue-green disk |
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| The nebula looked elongatedon one direction but did not appear to me to have bulges reminiscent of rings. |
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| Target | M73, NGC 6994 |
| Constellation | Aqr |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919.2340 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 8.90
Surface Brightness: 10.88
Dimensions: 2.8’ x2.8’
Description: Cl, eP, vlC, No neb
4 or 5 Mag. 10 stars; Messier saw nebulosity but there is none at this time |
| An asterism of four stars. I saw two stars solidly and one that drifted in and out. |
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| Target | M71, NGC 6838 |
| Constellation | Sge |
| Category | GCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0004 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 8.3
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 6.1’ x 6.1’
Description: Cl, vL, vRi, pmC, *11 . . . 16
Arrowhead shape, stars have few metals |
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| Target | M27, Dumbbell Nebula, NGC 6853 |
| Constellation | Vul |
| Category | PlNeb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0026 EDT |
| Comments | How do I describe this. It looked to me like I was seeing a large bright sphere that was overlapped on opposite sides by smaller darker spheres that did not touch each other. The impression I got was that the object was elongated horizontally. After Peterdescribed what he saw I could see the central bright area as an elongated vertical shape that was pinched in the center but I still had the impression of darker shapes out to the sides of the pinched off area giving me an overall impression of elongation in the horizontal rather than the vertical. At higher magnification the objects to the sides were not as visible.
| Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 7.30
Surface Brightness: 11.20
Dimensions: 8.0’ x 5.7’
Description: ! ! vB, vL, bi-N, IE, PK60-3.1
Lord Rosse drew 18° invl |
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| Target | M15, NGC 7078 |
| Constellation | Peg |
| Category | GCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0138 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 6.40
Surface Brightness: 11.00
Dimensions: 12.3’ x 12.3’
Description: !, vB, vL, iR,vsmbM, rrr, st vS
Stars Mag. 13 |
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By this time my back and my feet were getting sore and I sent to the car to take an hour nap that ended up lasting 1.5 hours with the nap being confined to the last part of the time. I rejoined Perer at 0300 EDT.
| Target | M108 , NGC 3556 |
| Constellation | |
| Category | |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0407 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch, 37.5x |
| Belt of Venus sketch, 120x |
Mag.: 10.00
Surface Brightness: 13.10
Dimensions 8.6’ x 2.4’
Description: cB, vL, vmR 79, pEM, H V 46
nearly edge-on; M97 is 48’ SE |
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| Target | M78, NGC 2068 |
| Constellation | Ori |
| Category | Neb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0426 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch, 120x |
Mag.: 8.00
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 8.0’ x 6.0’
Description: B, L, wisp, gmbN, 3° inv, r
Comet shaped; 2 Mag. 10 * invl, 53’ ‘ sep |
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| Target | Flame Nebula, NGC 2024 |
| Constellation | Ori |
| Category | Neb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0429 EDT |
| Comments | a reflection nebula. Te pictures show a dark lane through its center and I remember seeing a dark lane in something but don’t know if this was the object. |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Target | NGC 2071 |
| Constellation | Ori |
| Category | Neb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0430 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
Mag.: 8.00
Surface Brightness: 11.60
Dimensions: 7.0’ x 5.0’
Description: D*(10 & 14m)w vF, L chev H IV 36 |
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| A small reflection nebula near M78. As this image indicates, we missed a lot in the neighborhood, some of it probably to faint for us to see.
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| Target | M42, Great Orion Nebula, NGC 1976 |
| Constellation | Ori |
| Category | Cl &anp; Neb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0446 EDT |
| Comments |
I have never seen
M42 look so impressive. While observing I didn’t even think to observe the trapezium. I walked the scope up and down through the sword just appreciating all the nebulocity and clusters there. |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 4.00
Surface Brightness: 11.00
Dimensions: 90.0’ x 60.0’
Description: ! ! !, Theta Orionis and the great nebula M42
Trapezium * 6.7-7.7m; >50 var* invl; M43 to NE |
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| Target | M44, Beehive Cluster, Presepe, NGC 2632 |
| Constellation | Cnc |
| Category | Ocl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0447 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 3.10
Surface Brightness: 13.00
Dimensions: 95.0’ x 95.0’
Description: ! !, 200 memb to 14 mag |
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| Target | M41, NGC 2287 |
| Constellation | CMa |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0448 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 4.50
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 38.0’x 38.0’
Description: Cl, vL, B lC, st 8 . . .
150 membersto 13 mag; orange * near center |
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| Target | Iridium 4 Flare |
| Constellation | UMa |
| Category | Satellite |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0457 EDT |
| Comments |
| Alt. | 16.0° |
| Az. | 12.4° |
| Mag. | -2.5 |
I estimated the altitude correctly but missed the azimuth. I was looking where the handle of the dipper joins the bowl and the flare occurred to the left of the handle. Peter saw it and called it out but by the time I found it it had reached maximum brightness and was fading.
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| Target | M35, NGC 2168 |
| Constellation | Gem |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0506 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 5.10
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 28.0’ x 28.0’
Description: Cl, vL, eRi, pC, St9 . . . 16
Lord Posse counted 300*; orange * invl; NGC 2158 30’ SW |
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| Target | NGC 1528 |
| Constellation | Per |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0510 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
Mag.: 6.40
Surface Brightness: 13.04
Dimensions: 24.0’ x 24.0’
Description: Cl, B, vRi, cC, H VII 61
80 * Mag 8 . . .; 1 deg NNW from bl Per |
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| Target | M50, NGC 2323 |
| Constellation | Mon |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0510 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 5.30
Surface Brightness: 12.00
dimensions: 16.0’ x 16.0’
Description: Cl, vL, Ri, pC
About 100 stars mags 9 . . . 14 |
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| Target | M34, NGC 1039 |
| Constellation | Per |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920.0544 EDT |
| Comments |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.; 5.20
SurfaceBrightness: 12.66
Dimensions: 35.0’ x 35.0
Description: Cl, B, vL, lC, sC, st9 . . .
At least 80 true members; sev D* incl h1123 * O Struev 44 |
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The following items were also observed but were not time stamped:
| Target | M31, Andromeda Galaxy, NGC 224 |
| Constellation | And |
| Category | Gal |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090910 & 20090920 EDT |
| Comments | The Andromeda Galazy was oserved several times during the night with the telecope, the binocular and naked-eye. In the telescope it appeared elongated horizontally (I believe it was still in the NE sky when that observation was made. |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag: 3.40
Surface Brightness: 13.50
Dimensions: 189.1’ x 61.7’
Description: ! ! ! eeB, eL, vmE
Local Group; nearest spiral |
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| Target | M32, NGC 221 |
| Constellation | And |
| Category | Gal |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919 EDT |
| Comments |
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Cartes du Ciel graphic |
It required looking to see that it was there. M108 was much more obvious tonight. |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 8.10
Surface3 Brightness: 12.40
Dimensions: 8.5’ x 6.5’
Description: vvB, L, R, psmbMN
M31 triplicate; Comp to M31 |
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| Target | M110, NGC 2005 |
| Constellation | And |
| Category | Gal |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919 EDT |
| Comments | A stripe of nebulosity appeared beneath M31 on a slight angle. It was long. It was like a brush stroke with a brush that had had all of its paint used up. I believe that this is the first time I have seen this object. |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 8.10
Surface Brightness: 14.00
Dimensions: 19.5’ x 11.5’
DescriptionvB, vL, mE 165 degreees, vgvmhM
M31 companion; UGC 426;H V 18 |
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| Target | NGC 6990 ?? |
| Constellation | |
| Category | |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 200909 19 0r 20 EDT |
| Comments |
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Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Target | M36, NGC 1960 |
| Constellation | Aur |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 200909 19 or 20 EDT |
| Comments |
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Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag: 6.00
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 12.0’ x 12.0’
Description: Cl, B, vL, vRi, 1C, *9 . . . 11
in Aur OB1; incl Struve 737 10.7’ ‘ sep |
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| Target | M37, NGC 2099 |
| Constellation | Aur |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 200909 19 or 20 EDT |
| Comments |
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Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 5.60
Surface Brightness: 11.00
Dimensions: 24.0’ x 24.0’
Description: ! ! Cl, Ri, pCM, st L & S
Total population 500); dark area near center |
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| Target | M38, NGC 1912 |
| Constellation | Aur |
| Category | OCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 200909 19 or 20 EDT |
| Comments |
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Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 6.40
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 21.0’ x 21.0’
Descriotion: Cl, B, vL, vRi, iF, st L & S
in Aur OB1; Burnham-shaped like Greek letter Pi (π) |
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| Target | M57, Ring Nebula, NGC 6720 |
| Constellation | Lyr |
| Category | PlNeb |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090919 EDT |
| Comments | Observed in one of the GoTo scopes. I couldn’t focus it but it was big, bright and had an obvious hole in the center. |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 9.40
Surface Brightness: 9.30
Dimensions: 1.4’ x 1.0’
Description: B, pL,cE
central* var 14 to 16mag; PK63 +13.1 |
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| Target | M13, Hercules Cluster, NGC 6205 |
| Constellation | Her |
| Category | GCl |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920 EDT |
| Comments | I observed this in the binoculars with difficulty. |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
| Belt of Venus sketch |
Mag.: 5.90
Surface Brightness: 12.00
Dimensions: 23.2’ x 23.2
Description: ! ! eB, vRi, vgeCM,*11 . . .
Messier said round nebula contains no star |
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| Target | Mars |
| Constellation | Gem |
| Category | Planet |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920 EDT |
| Comments |
Mars was observed around 0400 EDT in a GoTo scope and just looked like an orange ball.
Object Class | Classical Planet |
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| Elongation | ° |
Distance Light Time (from Earth) | 1.4843 AU m s |
Distance (from Sun) | 1.5112 AU |
| Angular Size | 6.3" |
| Magnitude | 0.9 |
| Central Meridian | 318.46° |
| Altitude | 49° 41’ |
Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| Target | Venus |
| Constellation | Leo |
| Category | Planet |
Time yyyymmdd.hhmm | 20090920 EDT |
| Comments |
Venus came over the trees around 0430-0445 and was within about .5° of Regulus to its right. I observed Venus in a GoTo scope. I didn’t try to focus the scope to my vision but could tell that there was a bite taken out of the right side of the planet.
Object Class | Classical Planet |
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| Elongation | ° |
| % Illuminated | 87.>% |
Distance Light Time (from Earth) | 1.430 AU m s |
Distance (from Sun) | 0.7188 AU |
| Angular Size | 11.7" |
| Magnitude | -3.9 |
| Altitude | 9° 14’ |
| Cartes du Ciel graphic |
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| There are threads of stars coming out of the center of the cluster in all directions. This may be the object I described as looking like an asterisk and Peter a spider. There are several other Messier open clusters that give this same impression.
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We saw meteors throughout the night. Most of them were green but those toward sunrise were red. One particular one that I say tracked over at least 90° of the sky and dipped into the atmosphere three times brightening and leaving more burning material behind it each time.
Before sunrise we observed the Zodiacal Light. Tom pointed it out for us. It appeared as a very squat triangle of bright sky before the beginning of twilight. We have always joked about the pillar of light coming out of Times Square being our gegenschein but that is more akin to the Zociacal Light. Gegenschein would appear as an illuminated spot of light on the celestial sphere.
All of the Macksutov scopes had dew problems and their users left early. The Teleport had piddles of water on its flat surfaces but other than some eyepiece fogging that was quickly dissipated by the heater it had no problems. By the time we packed up there was frost on all of Peters bags and our jackets were wet. We had to wait for the car’s windshield to defrost before we could leave to observing site.
Since I hadn’t made any notes while I was observing I went to see the sketches at Belt of Venus to try to jog my memory as to what I had seen in the eyepiece. The sketches of the globular clusters weren’t that much help to me and those are the objects where I most needed the help. This points out the importance of making notes as you observe.